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Apartments & Public EV Charging (Australia)

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Committee knocked back the shared charger proposal — is wiring a GPO to my own car space actually a legal workaround?

Been in this block eighteen months now, one of five owners with an EV (up from two last year, so it's clearly not a phase). There's a shared underground garage, everyone's got a numbered space, but only two spaces near the old caretaker's room actually have a GPO close enough to reach. Committee put a proposal to the last AGM for a shared L2 setup near the lift core, three of us split the quote, seemed reasonable. Got voted down — a few owners without EVs didn't want to set a precedent for the building subsidising anyone's petrol savings, was basically the argument.

So now I'm stuck. My own space is about 12 metres from the nearest GPO, no way to run an extension cord that far without it becoming a trip hazard across the aisle. I could pay an electrician to run a dedicated GPO just to my own bay, at my own cost, no shared infrastructure involved. Is that actually within my rights as an owner without going through the same committee fight? Or does anything touching the common property garage still need a vote regardless of who's paying?

A dedicated GPO to your own bay is usually a common-property by-law question, not a capital works motion — different process to what got voted down at the AGM. Our building approved five of these individually after our shared install stalled, cheaper and faster than reopening the whole fight. Ask the committee for that specific motion, not another 'EV charging' line item — the wording is what gets it through.

Does that still need to go to a full AGM, or can the committee sign off on it outside of that?

Ours went through as an out-of-session resolution, no AGM wait, about a month once the wording was right. All five owners did it the same way once the first one set the precedent.

Twelve metres off the nearest GPO is well past what you'd want tapping off an existing circuit anyway. At that distance get a dedicated run straight from the switchboard priced separately — ask for it as its own circuit, not an extension of whatever's already feeding that wall.

Would that mean digging up the garage floor for new cable, or is there usually existing conduit down there already?

Most underground carparks built in the last twenty years already have spare conduit or cable tray in for exactly this. Ask the building manager for the electrical as-builts before anyone assumes a full dig-up, that's rarer than people think.

Had this exact fight in my building a couple of years back and just gave up. Carry my own Type 2 cable now and use the public untethered chargers near the port. Cheaper in time than arguing with a committee that didn't want to set a precedent.

Wouldn't give up that early if I were you. The individual by-law route is usually a lot less contested than the shared install once the building isn't being asked to pay for anyone's power.

Half the BYD and MG owners I know in apartments hit the exact same wall. Got nothing to do with the car, it's entirely a building politics problem once you're past the dealer.

Never had to deal with any of this myself, own house, solar, charger's on its own circuit. Reading threads like this is the first time I've properly clocked how much of the apartment problem is politics rather than anything electrical.

Granny charger straight off a GPO's been fine for me, but that's a house on its own board with nothing else pulling off it. A shared garage on a building switchboard isn't really the same risk profile.

same exact fight happening in my building

Still just researching, but does a dedicated GPO like this need a fresh quote each time, or can the same sparky who did the first four just do a fifth on the same wording?

Ran the numbers on this month's public charging bill and it's basically what I'd have spent on fuel

Three years without a home charging option now — no carport, no driveway, whatever GPO exists in this building's basement isn't near my bay and the body corporate isn't touching it (different thread, don't get me started). So it's all public AC and DC for me, mostly Chargefox and Evie around Fremantle and into Perth for work.

Actually sat down and added up this month's charging receipts against what I was paying for fuel in the old Corolla, adjusting for the same monthly kms. Averaged close to 55c/kWh across the fast chargers I used, a couple of sessions closer to 60c during peak windows. Once I factored in the utilisation, it landed within about $15 of what the Corolla would've cost me for the same driving.

Genuinely didn't expect that. Is this just a Perth/WA pricing thing, or is everyone doing public-only charging now getting closer to petrol parity? Feels like the entire "EVs are cheaper to run" pitch assumes you've got a home charger, which a lot of us don't.

The gap's not really about EVs, it's about which rate you're on. My off-peak home tariff sits under 20c/kWh before solar offsets anything. Public DC networks are pricing in demand charges and site lease costs that never show up on a home meter, that's most of your 55c, not margin.

So there's genuinely no way to get close to home rates on public DC even off-peak, it's just structurally a different price point?

Pretty much. AC destination charging gets closer, 25-35c/kWh on some networks, but the second you're on a DC fast charger you're paying the site's demand tariff, not a retail residential rate.

Not fully buying that it's all demand charges. Some sites are just pricing to whatever the market will bear. 55c on a DC unit with no amenities isn't cost-reflective, it's what people pay when they've got no other option.

Regional NSW here, nearest fast charger's forty minutes away so I mostly charge at home, but visiting Sydney I saw the same 55-60c pricing. Is metro public charging just priced differently to keep up with demand?

public bill shocked me too honestly

Genuinely didn't know you needed five different apps for public charging until this week

Three months into the MG4, first ever new car, first EV obviously. Charging at home's been easy enough at the house here in regional NSW, but I did a trip down to Sydney for a family thing last week and needed to top up twice on the way — first time relying on public charging away from my own driveway.

Ended up with PlugShare for finding stations, Chargefox for one stop, Evie for the other because Chargefox didn't have anything close by, and then downloaded AmpCharge on the drive because I saw a sign for it and panicked a bit. Four apps, four accounts, four sets of card details, all before lunch.

Is there something that actually shows live availability across networks in one place, or is this just what public charging in Australia is until someone builds that? Feels like a lot of admin for something that used to just be pulling into a servo.

There isn't a single aggregator that actually works reliably yet. PlugShare's the closest for finding stations but you still need the network's own app to actually start a session. I keep all four installed permanently now, treat it as part of owning the car, not a temporary hassle.

So there's genuinely no way around having all of them installed, it's not just me missing some trick everyone else knows?

No trick. JOLT's the one I'd add as a fifth if you're ever charging near shopping strips, they do free minutes on some units.

Does JOLT actually work reliably though, or is it just as hit and miss as the rest of the stack?

Worth noting some manufacturer apps also show compatible public networks now — BYD's app does basic PlugShare-style pins for Atto 3 and Dolphin owners, not as complete as PlugShare itself though.

Does MG have anything similar built in, or is that a BYD-specific thing?

Not that I've seen on the MG side, their app's mostly just service booking and vehicle status, nothing charging-network related.

Same pile of apps here, no home charger at all so I'm relying on this stack daily, not just for road trips. JOLT and Evie cover most of what's near me in Melbourne.

Still just researching before buying — is coverage this fragmented in Hobart too, or more of a mainland-cities problem?

Fragmentation's more about how many networks operate in your area than city size specifically. Fewer networks generally means fewer apps, not necessarily better coverage though.

my phone is also an app graveyard

Disagree that four's mandatory for everyone — dropped Evie in Canberra since Chargefox covers basically everywhere I drive. Depends entirely on which networks actually operate where you live, not a fixed number.

Do the apps at least remember your payment details between sessions, or is it re-entering card info every single stop too?

Chargefox remembers mine fine, re-entered card details on Evie twice for no reason I could find. Inconsistent across the networks, not just you.

Regional charging here is thin enough that I've only ever needed two apps total, Chargefox and the servo network's own one. Almost prefer having fewer options honestly, less admin.

Touring the east coast we've landed on six apps between the caravan and the car. Half the caravan parks want their own booking app on top of whatever charges the car.

Reading this from Darwin, we've barely got two networks up here so the app pile's the least of my charging problems.

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